A Must Read!!! Nas & B.I.G Had Beef????
“Y’all don’t know about my Biggie wars/ Who you thought ‘Kick in the Door’ was for?/ But that’s my heart, Y’all still trippin off that Jigga sh*t…” – Nas, “Last Real N***a Alive”
The people of BronxRap.com new about this beef long time ago…But this is for all the heads that didn’t know….We’re just tryin to keep you abreast…L Boogzz
Words by Jesse Hagen
This lyric and the whole song really (which I talked about earlier in my “King Without a Crown” post), pulled back the curtain to reveal a lot of what Nas had been going through since he burst onto the scene with Illmatic. Up until “Last Real N***a Alive,” speculation about a beef between Nas and Biggie hadn’t really been considered.
Though Nas and Biggie never had an official major-label track recorded together during Big’s lifetime, it wasn’t assumed that the two were at odds with each other. In a behind-the-scenes feud, that involved a lot of industry politics: Nas was pulled into a beef that was already going on between Raekwon and Ghostface Killah of the Wu-Tang clan and the Notorious B.I.G. One that is noted by Nas:
“BIG was ahead of his time, him and Raekwon my n***as/ But dig it, they couldn’t get along/That’s when Ghostface said it on the Purple tape/ Bad Boy biting Nas album come awake/ BIG told me Rae was stealing my slang/ And Rae told me out in Shaolin BIG would do the same thing.”
The beef between Rae and Big came from Rae feeling slighted that Biggie was blowing up so big in 1994 and taking Raekwon’s place as the “rotund rapper that embodied the voice of New York.” Ghostface and Raekwon then created a famous mixtape that was released on a purple cassette which is what Nas is referring to. Ghost criticizes Biggie for stealing his album cover concept on 94’s Ready to Die, which shows a young Christopher Wallace, and is indeed much reminiscent of Nas’s cover for Illmatic, which shows a young Nasir Jones. There is also a threat to throw bleach in Big’s eyes, a line that Big took and used back against Raekwon on “Kick in the Door”
Nas appeared on “Verbal Intercourse” with Raekwon and Ghostface off of Raekwon’s 1995 release Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. The disc also featured a skit called “Shark N****s (Biters),” in which Ghostface and Raekwon are supposedly talking about how Big bit his ideas, flow, and style from Raekwon and others.
To Biggie, it must have looked like Nas had been backing Raekwon in the beef because of his famous guest appearance on Cuban Linx. This coupled with Nas’s refusal to appear on Jay-z’s Reasonable Doubt, showed Biggie that Nas was possibly going against him socially.
A little after OB4CL dropped, Nas started putting some subliminals in his songs. “The Message” off of It Was Written, includes a line that says “Illmatic…/ Y’all fake n***as trying to copy.” On the same album, Nas has a song called “Shootouts,” that includes a cautionary tale about someone named ‘Frank.’ (Biggie’s alias was ‘Frank White’). Nas also made a remix to “Affirmative Action,” that talks about how he feels that Biggie was coming for his spot. Some of the older songs that Nas included on The Lost Tapes also contain a few subliminals that could be aimed at Big (especially on “Everybody’s Crazy” and “No Ideas Original”).
Biggie replied with a few verses that contained subliminal jabs aimed at Nas. Nas says on “Last Real N***a Alive,” that “Kick in the Door,” was about him. The track contains a few subliminals that could be about Nas, but is mostly aimed at Raekwon and Jeru the Damaja. Some of the subliminals in “Kick in the Door:” After the beat drops, Big says “This goes out to you,” with “you” being said 10 times… a potential reference to the 9 members of Raekwon’s Wu-Tang Clan plus Nas? Unlikely, as Biggie collaborated with Method Man for “The What” on Ready to Die, and RZA has a production credit for “Long Kiss Goodnight” on Life After Death, but who knows for sure if the 10 “This goes out to you,” lines are meaningful.
“Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns,” in 1997, no East Coast MC was shining like Biggie was. Nas especially hadn’t recorded another classic after Illmatic and he had begun his decent from “Top Ten to not mentioned at all,” that Jay-z would later reference in battle. This was also an important line in Biggie’s seizing of the New York crown, which Nas could have potentially been holding at that point due to Illmatic.
“I’m done with them/ Son, I’m surprised you run with them,” This could be a clear shot at Nas, based off of Biggie’s suspicion that Nas chose Raekwon and Ghost’s side in the beef.
“This goes out to those that choose to use disrespectful views on the King of NY,” Big’s pretty self explanatory, dedicating the song to anyone he feel has disrespected him, (ie: Nas, Jeru, Ghostface and Raekwon).
There may be a slight case for “Kick in the Door” being aimed at Nas, but the line that really goes at Nas is found on “Victory” off of Puff Daddy’s No Way Out, where B.I.G. says: “Your Fam/ Destiny lays in my hands/ Gat lays at my waist” Nas’s daughter is named Destiny and since Biggie says “your fam,” the line is pretty obviously directed at Nas.
It seems in the end that Nas was more on the offense for this feud. Big shot back a little, but it never erupted into something that spun out of control

lg 10:41 pm on June 1, 2007 Permalink |
ya’ll late with this one
L Boogie 10:47 pm on June 1, 2007 Permalink |
I new about it but alot of people didn’t know so it’s kinda like a refresh….Come on dogs I remember…But we have alot of youngins…up on here
JesusJuice 1:44 am on June 2, 2007 Permalink |
Hmmmmmmm…..I know that “Kick In the Door” had a couple of darts for Raekwon, but not for Nas. I’m too tired to go listen to the song, so fudge it.
NILS 5:29 am on June 2, 2007 Permalink |
I only knew about the ‘kick in the door’- subliminals.
Thx Boogie
m.dot. 2:21 pm on June 2, 2007 Permalink |
“Y’all don’t know about my Biggie wars
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Errr. Duh.
Shit. I walk around TALKING ABOUT my biggie wars.
miks 4:08 pm on June 2, 2007 Permalink |
illllllllllllllllllmmmmmmmmmmmmaticccccccccc
SystemRebel 6:14 pm on June 2, 2007 Permalink |
Nas is ill but the fuck is he trying to act like he down with Pac or Big? Pac ain’t like him and Big didn’t feel him either on the low.
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MiamiDaze 7:51 am on June 3, 2007 Permalink |
I’m done with them/ Son, I’m surprised you run with them,” This could be a clear shot at Nas, based off of Biggie’s suspicion that Nas chose Raekwon and Ghost’s side in the beef.
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I heard this line was in reference to DJ Premier running with Jeru at the time.
It’s a good post regardless of time. Alot of peeps ride Biggie now but back then alot of us who knew what was up were siding with the Rae & Ghostc & depending on what kinda of hip hop you were into.
Tor 9:32 am on June 3, 2007 Permalink |
“I’m done with them/ Son, I’m surprised you run with them,” was directed to Preemo about Jeru & Nas. Preem had done production for both. Also I don’t know about this mysterious “purple mixtape” yall speak of. The ‘Purple Tape’ was “Only Built For Cuban Linx”. If you copped cassettes back then you know that album came on a purple not a clear cassette tape. Also a key line about Nas from “Kick In The Door” was the line which BIG states. “It’s funny how niggaz used to be on cruddy shit/took home Ready To Die listened, studied shit/Now they on some money shit successful out the blue” Nas went from Nasty Nas to Nas Escobar from “Illmatic” to “It Was Written”. Also the closing line “That’s why my money never funny/ And you still recouping stupid” Heads know that Nas was signed to MC Serch’s publishing company Serch Lite for Illmatic & wasn’t getting his money like he was supposed to. Just so yall know……besides all that I got love for B.I.G. & Nas. Two of hip-hop’s finest lyricists’ EVER!!!
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sonny mason 1:31 am on June 5, 2007 Permalink |
Purple Tape is one of illest classics of alltime. How dare you disrespect and call it the mixtape. In my hood we don’t even refer to it as ‘Cuban Linx’, only ‘The Purple Tape’. Forgive yourself.
xzplizit 10:01 pm on February 1, 2008 Permalink |
It all seems far-fetched. Who really knows whether there really was beef or not. I guess we will never know the truth. All I know is Hip-Hop isn’t the same as it was back in the days. Biggie, Mobb Deep, Nas & The Wu. The golden era!!!
18thletter 10:47 am on February 20, 2008 Permalink |
Notorious B.I.G(R.I.P)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nas,ghostface,Raekwon
Grzzle215 12:36 pm on January 31, 2009 Permalink |
This beef started when nas was in L.A and he saw Biggie and did not speak to him…Biggie then called Jay and said Nas didn’t even speak to him in L.A… also there is a rumor that back in 95 ..Nas and Big was at a party and B.I.G got drunk and was acting real stupid and Nas smacked him…. that might be why Nas said in Street Dreams (rmx) “Was it somebody I smacked…drunk in a party of yak”
FuriaRoja8 12:52 pm on February 27, 2009 Permalink |
Also, the mad rapper in the beginning skit of kick in the door is directed at Nas. He talks about how he’s on his fourth album(which Nas was working on at the time) and hadn’t received any money like Big because of all the problems with MC Serch’s publishing. Also, he says “My Shit is more John Blaze…I got John Blaze shit” which is a direct allusion to a song Nas guest appearanced on with Big Pun, Fat Joe and LOX. And if it helps anymore as a subliminal, the last name of the interviewer in the skit(Trevin Jones) last name is Jones alluding to Nasir Jones (Nas).
DJ 3:08 pm on March 10, 2009 Permalink |
the shit is soo deep lyrically. its amazin how you cant even figure out the meaning of the lyrics. nowadays its just like “fuck so and so and fuck you too!” god what in the fuck happened to talent?
cheebs 10:21 pm on March 30, 2009 Permalink |
To FuriaRoja, do you know that the song John Blaze by Fat Joe was made after Biggie’s death?
And in 1997, Nas had just released his SECOND album the year before in 96. How could he have been working on his 4th album when his 4th album, which was Nastradamous, came out in 2000?
You reachin bro.
Avey 5:20 pm on April 21, 2009 Permalink |
Um, couple of wrong stuff here. B.I.G. was not dissing jeru he was dissing de la soul because de la soul went at him several times on there album in 96′ and one line from the album was Im not ready to die and yellow back which b.i.g. responded to yelling yellow in his background voice-over. Dissing wu-tang no b.i.g. worked with rza and meth him and rae had problems but he did not really want to respond as shown on b.i.g. notorious documentary. On kick in the door he dissed nas on having publishing be owned and nas not makin money and his reign on the top was short because nas sold 3.4 million in 96′ on it was written and went kinda quiet till 98′ or he could have actually talked about raekwon because of his success of only built… which only went platinum not quadrople plat like b.i.g. first album. B.i.g. dissed nas on several songs like one song I forgot the the name of featuring lox and produced by havoc from mobb deep where he mentioned “996 grams?!….ya need fo mo!”, (four more). The beef was not deep but it was like a paper ball fight nobody knew about. Jay-z vs. nas was real rap beef! Nas loves the beef though which is why he made it known because he wanted fans to know that everyone went at me…why?….you answer the question. Im not saying nas is the best rapper ever but nas has been affilated in the rap business with a body of work which is very different and unique. He has seen all the greats and still rapping in 2009 and beyond! I know lil wayne is incredible…but…illmatic was boss it was written he flossed one of the most creative lp’s to ever hit stores in the firm he learned I am…..nastradamous, qb’s finest! Stillmatic in the mind, god son on the body, street’s diciple in the soul even though the heart feels hip hop is dead….we know or can mention one N#%%@* that killed it!…50.
Prophet22 2:03 pm on July 6, 2009 Permalink |
Lil Wayne’s name shouldn’t even be mention with these skilled lyricists. These lyrics go beyond being ‘punchline clowns’. They actually had some shit to say and they did it with skilled wordplay. The way Wayne uses punchlines is the way “anybody” can use them. It’s elementary and is a no brainer.
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QUEENZFINEST 6:50 am on May 2, 2009 Permalink |
NAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BIG
NUFF SAID!!!
Phenom 6:17 pm on May 23, 2009 Permalink |
Most of these subliminals are reaching…
Phenom 6:23 pm on May 23, 2009 Permalink |
Most of these subliminals are reaching…They both made classic CD’s. The whole Wu-Tang part of it was “pure” jealousy. And who cares about cd covers and names. Nas said some dumb stuff when (to Jay (“Ether”)) “…KRS-1 already have a album called “Blueprint”…SO! Who cares! Very weak line. This beef was stupid and not called for because the great Nas was under peer pressure.